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    I don’t know if any of you guys caught my post in the GROUPS, but last night in Cakewalk Sonar Facebook Group I’ve been in for probably a decade, someone posted about the censorship going on. I post in response and the group’s admin gives my post a like. The guy who made the original post likes my post makes a related comment and reply back. Out of nowhere, the Group admin lashes out at me sharing a really bizzaro world version that was clearly Jonathan Sasor — who along with BandLab’s CTO, is, I believe a member of that group. Now everyone is entitled to their opinion, although I’m never cool with inflammatory attack posts on people. But something more problematic was going on. There’s no way that group admin would have known that I (real name) was PavlovsCat. My guess is that Sasor or someone else had PMed him and that’s when he made an inflammatory attack. An the attack was really weird. He wrote “you burned your bridges with BandLab!” Burned my bridges with a software company I’m a customer of? That’s like saying, I burned my bridges with McDonald’s when I said the BIg Mac isn’t really that good. But the underlying serious problem is the breech of my privacy. Sasor or another BandLab employee told this group admin that story and that I’m PavlovsCat. That’s problematic.

    So, I’ve shared that I’ve been emailing with BandLab’s social media guy, Within an hour of that going on, he sends me an email. I haven’t had any conversations with him since last week. The timing was odd. Was he PMing with the Cakewalk Facebook Group guy telling him a BS version of why I was banned and that I was really PavlovsCat? Ashwin and I have had a friendly series of emails. Unsatisfying ethically from my perspective. Ashwin acknowledges that the behavior by the tech folks running the “legacy forums” isn’t what it should be and urges me to be patient — after the software QC guy running their forums gave me a lifetime ban when I didn’t violate a single Forums policy?  Strange.

    So I offered Ashwin the opportunity to join this group and speak to BandLab users. If I led digital marketing and the social media manager told me he just had that offer, I’d tell him to get on it ASAP. But I also know from Ashwin’s statements that BandLab doesn’t really care about the older demographic (old) that we’re a part of. They’re trying to reach a much younger audience, the kind that uses BandLab.com.

    On a side note, BandLab’s irresponsible data practices resulted in exposing my personal account information on probably two dozen occasions over the years — really just ridiculously irresponsible. So I put in a request to have all of my data removed from Cakewalk’s website, where they’ve revealed my real name numerous times when they exposed my private account info. I would urge others concerned about their private data to do the same. Weeks before I was banned, I knew I was being targeted by Jonathan Sasor, so I started to prepare for what was clearly coming — the guy operates at the level of a 5th grade bully, so it was all predictable. Although I was hoping a competent and at least quasi-ethical manager would step in and manage Sasor, that never came. So I anticipatted a banning — all of my posts, like cclarry’s posts had to be read by Sasor before being posted at that point and this guy’s ethics are completely absent. He had a vendetta against me when I publicly called him out for publicly berating BandLab customers / forum users for asking if perpetual licenses had been ruled out. I changed my username to LinkedMusicians weeks prior to the ban. After I left Sasor went into my record and changed my username to PavlovsCat — because the guy operates with no moral code or guidelines. It makes him extremely predictable. One thing I did do is remove my original with free libraries so I could recreate them here.

    The post that resulted in Sasor banning me was replying to el diablo’s post and song worried that cclarry was okay. I posted that Larry is fine, he — and I — just didn’t agree with some of BandLab’s new policies and were posting elsewhere. It contained nothing that violated or came close to violating a BandLab policy. It didn’t reference any BandLab  employee. However, Sasor claimed the reason I was banned was that the post was hostile to BandLab employees. Again, it didn’t reference or even vaguely refer to any BandLab employees and I knew in advance that Sasor would have to approve it before posting, so why in the world would I write something I knew would never be posted? It’s just a really troubled junior employee with anger management issues who should never be in a customer-facing role. Now, I never wrote that or anything close to it at the Cakewalk Forum, but I can post it here and I’m 100 percent certain that’s exactly the issue. The fact that Sasor has lashed out at other Cakewalk Forums users just for referencing me or this site, is batsh*t crazy.  The fact that their management knows this and permits it to continue is a direct reflection of the poor ethics of the company. But Ashwin is welcome to come here and speak on behalf of BandLab if he chooses. I certainly would treat him with respect and let him have his say. I wouldn’t allow people to be disrespectful to him here and I don’t think any of you would be.  But I think a frank, honest conversation would be interesting. I would personally want to see BandLab issue a public apology to their Forum users before I could ever consider using the brand again. Otherwise, they’re just a really badly mismanaged company ran by a trust fund kid who clearly isn’t qualified to run the company and doesn’t possess the ethics or respect for customers to ensure any moral integrity by its managers. Ethical companies aren’t perfect, but they correct wrongs. they don’t given them a pass.

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