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[peter]

Behind the scenes developer story (so anyone uninterested can stop there). I was a superfan of Orange Tree Samples libraries when I approached Greg maybe 15 or so years ago after finding his guitar libraries were at a level that surpassed every other guitar sample library on the market. I shot him my bio so that he knew my background and would take me seriously and proposed that he was the perfect developer to create an idea I had for a guitar sample library that did just about everything a real guitar could do. I even threw some names at him, and told him my favorite name was Evolution, because it was an Evolution from what existed in the marketplace. My recommendation was that it should be a sub-brand, a line of products, that he should consider renaming his company Evolution Samples. I urged him to buy the related domain and urged him to register the trademark in the primary markets where he planned to market the product. And he did that.

I ended up talking to a bunch of other developers of guitar libraries over the years, and a bunch of them, like Andrew Aversa, Impact Soundworks, had shared with me that the Evolution guitar line inspired him to create his own guitar line, which he described to me as a less sophisticated system inspired by Evolution that was genre focused. The developer behind Electricity from Big Fish Audio told me that his libraries were merely Evolution “reverse engineered.” Just about every developer I’d known who did guitar libraries took note of Greg and described him as brilliant, and leading the way for guitar sample libraries. So, several months after the launch of the first Evolution guitar sample library, this brand new developer starts running promotions for his new company and line, Evolution Series. I contact the guy and tell him that his infringing on an existing trademark in his industry. He tells me that it doesn’t matter, he already bought the domain and had thought of the idea a long time before Orange Tree Samples’ launched their Evolution line. In other words, he has no intention of doing the legal and right thing.

Consequently, I do get annoyed every time I see this guy’s trademark infringing line and now everyone here knows why. He appears to be a talented developer. But ethically? Not a fan.

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[Yan]

Yes, he is a great guy, regardless. I bought many of his products, great quality and great customer service as well.

[peter]

Yan wrote:

Yes, he is a great guy, regardless. I bought many of his products, great quality and great customer service as well.

 

We can agree to disagree on ethics. As a business person and in my personal life, I find ethics incredibly important and don’t have respect for those who operate without decent principles. If you’ve ever owned a business and had your trademark or intellectual capital rights violated, you’d likely understand that.

That said, I’m 100 percent in favor of us all being able to share our opinions and experiences with the businesses that serve this market, whether positive or negative, without a fear of being censored or banned. No one has to be concerned about disagreeing with me. I have two teenage kids. I’m more surprised when they agree with me! I just wanted to share my knowledge and experience with this developer with others. He clearly felt that he had no ethical issues with infringing on another developer’s intellectual property because he claimed he had the idea in his head a long time. But the other developer had used the trademark in the marketplace and registered it in multiple countries long prior to this developer introducing a line of sample libraries with the same name. It’s a slam dunk trademark infringement that violates international trademark law. Interpol actually quotes me in their documents on this very topic. I know it well. But I realize that there are a lot of people who don’t care about ethics or laws in this area. Obviously, I do and just wanted to share why, although this developer seems very talented, I won’t purchase from his company.

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[Yan]

I understand your concerns here. In the end, I have most of the products from both Orange Tree Samples and Evolution Series. Except for the similar sounding brand name and guitar series from OTS, there’s no real overlapping in the kind of products they both offer. Both are really nice guys and both offer great but different products and great customer service.

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[GoncaloL]

On peter said
No one has to be concerned about disagreeing with me. I have two teenage kids. I’m more surprised when they agree with me!

Peter i have to disagree with you on that part of no banning teenage kids.

My pre-teenage kid, often gets banned a few ninutes to his room to clear is head.

I never censored him though…. Yet 😁

• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by GoncaloL.
• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by GoncaloL.

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