On June 19, 2025 at 7:01 pm lastcall said
Cheaper at Bestservice!

(sad face)

OMG — dead serious, that was my first thought when I posted this. You know that I can’t make a purchase when I know that Best Service would be selling this stuff for less!!! I don’t know if you voted in the poll if you’re still going to be okay buying from them in the…Read More

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Cheaper at Bestservice!

(sad face)

Also, @soulful keys, welcome to the forum! I’d love to know how you found LinkedMusicians. Were you researching Cakewalk Sonar and found this thread and registered, was it something else? It’s also valuable to learn how people found our community.

I’m the guy who started this place, but don’t worry, you never have to agree with me! My kids don’t…Read More

On June 19, 2025 at 1:21 pm SoulfulKeys said
I don’t think BandLab was ever concerned with marketing or selling this as a separate product, hence no perpetual license. It’s all about completing their BandLab ecosystem so a user can now do everything, from creating to distribution, through them with just one payment. They’ve never pushed it as a…

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On June 19, 2025 at 3:02 pm Brian said
This may belong under “free” but I wasn’t sure.  An email isn’t much of an ask.  I try not to lose perspective that a lot of free stuff is really a data trade.  Especially Google, in my case, but they have my number(s)

I think it makes sense here. I created the free forum for DAWs, sample libraries,…Read More

This may belong under “free” but I wasn’t sure.  An email isn’t much of an ask.  I try not to lose perspective that a lot of free stuff is really a data trade.  Especially Google, in my case, but they have my number(s)

I don’t think BandLab was ever concerned with marketing or selling this as a separate product, hence no perpetual license. It’s all about completing their BandLab ecosystem so a user can now do everything, from creating to distribution, through them with just one payment. They’ve never pushed it as a separate product and even now don’t seem…Read More

I have a couple of this developer’s Kontakt libraries and really like them. Thanks for posting this! It sounds lovely.

Another AI summary of research on the DAW market:

Evidence from user forums, industry discussions, and market share estimates indicates that Cakewalk Sonar is struggling to maintain relevance and market penetration compared to leading DAWs.

Market Share: Cakewalk’s market share is estimated to be in the 2–4% range, which is significantly lower t…Read More

On June 19, 2025 at 10:56 am Brian said
I let one of the dev’s YT vids run until I was unimpressed with what output was generated from his one hour of training audio, which was reading a book.  Also of note- he said training takes 3-5 days per model.

Wow, just imagine the things I could learn with a longer attention span! 😉

I let one of the dev’s YT vids run until I was unimpressed with what output was generated from his one hour of training audio, which was reading a book.  Also of note- he said training takes 3-5 days per model.

I just ran this (yes, it’s research gathered using AI) . It’s basic demographic info for BandLab’s platform vs Cakewalk Sonar. I thought it would be very useful to flesh out what I’m trying to communicate regarding these two target markets being very, very different. Of course, I would guess that far more than 90% of of BandLab’s revenue is from…Read More