peter posted
It’s completely bonkers that one unstable BandLab employee, Jonathan Sasor, was permitted to completely trash Cakewalk Forum users, which resulted in my stating that he needed to apologize — that resulted in his banning me from that Forum, lashing out at cclarry, then suspending, censoring or even banning anyone for even mentioning LinkedMusicians. Lionel created a thread at the Cakewalk Forum noting how deserted it is and asked where else people go for deals. People posted the shady MusicSoftwareDea… site (the guy used a shady influencer as his wingman to promote the site at various forums late last year; they made the rounds, and the guy downplayed the fact that his site is a typical affiliate marketing scheme) so even though posting to that site violates Cakewalk Forums policy, the link gets to remain. People posted other for profit sites, those links get to stay. Fleer posts a site created that isn’t a profit making site, doesn’t have affiliate marketing, and Fleer’s post is censored, and I would guess he may get a penalty, even though he didn’t violate any policy. It’s bonkers.
I don’t think anything BandLab is doing rises to the level of willful bad ethics that Mike Greene at VI-Control engages in, but I do think it’s an insult to their customers, I do think it’s ethically problematic to have a clearly unstable employee with what now what many of you can plainly see is a vendetta towards a Forum user for stating that he owes Forum users and apology for berating them. FTR, Sasor’s only response to that was that he wasn’t berating me, but other people, that I have never been a problem; my reply was that it was irrelevant, that I don’t want to reward companies where that kind of behavior by their employees is accepted; insisting Sasor needs to apologize to Cakewalk Forum users. That exchange is what led to his vendetta. Dead serious. If the guy apologized, I’d quickly accept it. I think his behavior is juvenile. What is surprising is that he works for a company where someone so unstable and doing actions that can only harm the brand, can get away with it. It doesn’t reflect a well managed brand.
If you want to see a train wreck in action, look for yourself (the link below). It’s just petty and childish. I’ve discussed it (via email) with Ashwin, BandLab’s social media guy, and he acknolwedges that Sasor’s behavior is a problem but adds that the company sees the Forums as “legacy” and basically conveys how little the company cares about the older demographic that uses the Cakewalk Forums and that the company has empowered software tech people to handle that forum, who admittedly, don’t have great people skills. He asks me to be patient — after Sasor trashed my reputation by suspending and then banning me, altered my username (it was LinkedMusicians for weeks before I was banned, Sasor changed it back). It’s nuts. Some people are not cut out to manage social media. They have the wrong temperament and ethics and those problems are going to be very transparent in a public-facing outlet, which is the case here.
@fleer were you just censored or did Jonathan Sasor give you some kind of warning. It’s so bizarre and petty. Agreed? I get that stuff — and worse — happening for an indie developer’s forum, but a forum for a mid sized software company owned by a billionaire trust fund kid? Well, okay, maybe that explains how it’s so messed up and unprofessional. See it for yourself:
https://discuss.cakewalk.com/profile/284-linkedmusicians/?do=namehistory&page=4
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