BandLab Membership 25% off thru Sept. 9

[superabbit]

https://www.bandlab.com/membership

That’s $112.

Gets you a year of Sonar Redux and Cakewalk Next.

Also digital distribution and a slew of enhancements to your BandLab profile and browser-based BandLab DAW.

So if you aren’t interested in Next and don’t use BandLab’s social media features or browser-based DAW, it amounts to $112 for a year of NuSonar with the prospect of buying another year at the end of your year.

To be honest, damn, they’ve been doing some serious improving on Sonar’s speed and resource-handling, so if you can stomach software license-by-membership, it’s a pretty slick beast these days.

I suppose there’s no way that this post will fail to trigger the inevitable Amish rake fight, so I’ll get it out of the way. Sharpen those tines, Jebediah….

-Erik
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superabbit.bandcamp.com

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[cclarry]

Not a snowballs chance in H-E double toothpicks now….

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[doug]

Double hockey sticks for me. I am Canadian after all.

This would be a clever signature if I could think of one.

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[peter]

What my friend Larry said.

LinkedMusicians Founder. Your friend who keeps the beat.

Check out my music. 

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[Brian]

Thumbs up for “Amish Rake Fight” . Great song title!

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[peter]

BTW, I just want to point out that even though I personally wouldn’t buy anything from BandLab and think the company has pretty bad ethics, anyone in this community is free to share their opinion that can be 180 degrees from mine. That’s how reasonable people and brands should operate. I think @superrabbit is a wonderful person that I’m very glad is part of this forum and he might really love BandLab products. That’s fine by me. He should always be able to express his views freely in this forum and so should @cclarry. Hopefully, someday BandLab’s management will do better, but they show no sign of being a better company at this time.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by peter.

LinkedMusicians Founder. Your friend who keeps the beat.

Check out my music. 

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[cclarry]

I agree Pete!

No disrespect to @superrabbit was intended

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[peter]

I should give a heads up about my sense of humor. On Facebook I have a small group of 39 friends (beyond my full list of around 220 something friends) where I get really personal and share stuff I’d never share publicly. Every so often I post something I call ‘Peter’s Unpopular Opinion of the Day” — opinions I have that I know that most of my friends won’t agree with. But these are friends I carefully selected who are open minded and can accept others with different views. But when they disagree I often jokingly reply “unfriended!” So, if I ever post, “banned!” know that I’m only kidding. We’re friends here.

Some of the techniques I plan on using if anyone gets out of line? Here’s an example. Let’s say fred (not a real user at this time) decides he wants to make a political commentary, I post something like:

“Sorry, Fred. I realize how much you adore her music, but I really don’t see the demand for a Swifties Forum. So, I’d be grateful if you could stop sending those requests to me. ”

So, be careful folks! The inmates are running the asylum! 😉

• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by peter.

LinkedMusicians Founder. Your friend who keeps the beat.

Check out my music. 

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[jih64BANNED]

Where did my post go, I can’t type it again 🙁

I get this “Error: Duplicate reply detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that.” but I can’t see my post.:(

• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by jih64BANNED.

[jih64BANNED]

I backed up a couple of times and my post was still there in the editor, fixed that error message by inserting another word in the post, still no idea where it has gone to 🙁

[jih64BANNED]

superabbit wrote:

https://www.bandlab.com/membership

To be honest, damn, they’ve been doing some serious improving on Sonar’s speed and resource-handling, so if you can stomach software license-by-membership, it’s a pretty slick beast these days.

First off, Jonathon, Ban him!! Censor that Post!! 🙂

Yes I read a lot of positive comments on that latest release and only a handful of negatives. By some of the performance figures being thrown around it does seem to be fairly significant. The features I read about also were nothing to snort at. I started of a 3day trail back a bit but that didn’t last long, maybe 6 hours or so. I installed it on this laptop, which is my internet machine, I don’t know how people can use a laptop for DAW’s, I then put it on one of my Desktop DAW’s, I don’t know, I still kind of felt closed in, suffocating, like when you add plugin’s to a track, even though the FX bin expands, it just feels closed in, I had a lot of dislikes with simple things like that. I don’t remember it being like that in SONAR Platinum.

It seemed it was just so much faster to achieve the simplest of things in Studio One, yes, I haven’t used Sonar since this time in 2015, but I had user SONAR/Cakewalk since Pro Audio 9 until that time. I would like to check it out again on the Desktop, but it just feels like I would be wasting time, I don’t know, it’s just curiosity of the latest release, no intention or desire of leaving Studio One.

Bazinga

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[jih64BANNED]

superabbit wrote:

https://www.bandlab.com/membership

To be honest, damn, they’ve been doing some serious improving on Sonar’s speed and resource-handling, so if you can stomach software license-by-membership, it’s a pretty slick beast these days.

First off, Jonathon, Ban him!! Censor that Post!! 🙂

Yes I read a lot of positive comments on that latest release and only a handful of negatives. By some of the performance figures being thrown around it does seem to be fairly significant. The features I read about also were nothing to snort at. I started of a 3day trail back a bit but that didn’t last long, maybe 6 hours or so. I installed it on this laptop, which is my internet machine, I don’t know how people can use a laptop for DAW’s, I then put it on one of my Desktop DAW’s, I don’t know, I still kind of felt closed in, suffocating, like when you add plugin’s to a track, even though the FX bin expands, it just feels closed in, I had a lot of dislikes with simple things like that. I don’t remember it being like that in SONAR Platinum.

It seemed it was just so much faster to achieve the simplest of things in Studio One, yes, I haven’t used Sonar since this time in 2015, but I had user SONAR/Cakewalk since Pro Audio 9 until that time. I would like to check it out again on the Desktop, but it just feels like I would be wasting time, I don’t know, it’s just curiosity of the latest release, no intention or desire of leaving Studio One.

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[superabbit]

jih64BANNED wrote:

It seemed it was just so much faster to achieve the simplest of things in Studio One, yes, I haven’t used Sonar since this time in 2015, but I had user SONAR/Cakewalk since Pro Audio 9 until that time. I would like to check it out again on the Desktop, but it just feels like I would be wasting time

Bottom line, the best DAW is the one you feel most comfortable with.

Right now, the DAW I feel most comfortable with is Sonar. I have an up to date license for Studio One Artist, and I plan to keep it that way unless it gets too spendy.

For the record, the news that Sonar and Next were being released with no perpetual license option really knocked the wind out of my sails. As everyone here knows, I was a big (maybe the biggest) rah-rah for Cakewalk by BandLab. If I ever was to the degree that it was annoying, I must apologize.

I’ll stand by what I said: for 6 years, BandLab didn’t pull a wrong move (not one that I remember). But good lord, once the wrong moves started, they did not fsck around. First announcing the change to payware over a year ahead of delivering the product, then delivering the product only as part of a subscription membership, then ham fisted measures to stomp out dissidence on the product forum. Ick ick ick.

Trying to force your users into subscription-only has already been established as a douche move. They must have decided that the loyal userbase they had established over the past 6 years (much longer in some cases) wasn’t important. Time will tell whether the product needed the users more than the users needed the product.

If I have 10,000 people who are willing to pay me $100 for something, it looks like someone’s offering me a million dollars to do that thing. Are there 10,000 people who would buy a $100 perpetual license for Sonar but would not buy a subscription to Sonar? I don’t know. I do know that if all I needed to do to get a million dollars was allow people to use something I had already made, I wouldn’t have to think about it very long.

Whatever. I have a saying, “the company is not your friend.”

Some people on this forum were hard done by the company that sells my favorite DAW. There’s nothing I can do but say I think it sucks and I wish it had gone differently.

-Erik
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superabbit.bandcamp.com

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[jih64BANNED]

Well, when my 3 days Free Trial ended there was enough time for me to take advantage or disadvantage 😉 of this ‘25% off‘ for the ‘Yearly Membership‘. The download, install, and authorization went smoothly, although I had to install ‘Platinum‘ to install the extra plugins etc, you’d think they would have developed a way around that by now, with either the ‘Command Center‘ or as it’s called today the ‘Product Center‘ and just have it connect to your account with the ability to download, install, and authorize all the products in your account and have it do it without the need for ‘SONAR Platinum‘,’ X3e‘, or whatever installed. But it is what it is.

It didn’t take long for me to overcome the issues I expressed above and for the memory to slowly start to come back. I want to do a couple of tests, nothing ‘scientific‘, just what I call ‘real world‘ tests. All I do is start loading Sonar up with tracks and instruments, and not just slamming anything on, have it as I would have it if doing a project. Then have Studio One the same, or as close as can be possible, same plugins, same settings, BFD3 same kit, Trilian, same model bass and settings. Now I either need to add something extra on Sonar to compensate for the instances of MixFX I use in Studio One or not compensate and leave Studio One disadvantaged from the start, which is what I usually do when comparing because I don’t know what or how much to add to make it even. Yeah I know I could just disable MixFX all together and solve the problem, but I must have Studio One as it is when it’s being used. Anyway, after that I just start doubling up tracks and or Instrument tracks as needed until one or the other starts to spit and cough, then take it a little bit more until the other starts to spit and cough and then just back it off a little. I’m not interested in bringing therm or the PC to the ground. It’s just for my own curiosity, I do it every couple of years. Yes, it is not very scientific, and yes it may have faults etc, but for me it’s a good enough ‘real world‘ test.

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[superabbit]

On Brian said

<p>Thumbs up for “Amish Rake Fight” . Great song title!</p>

One of the guys from Machines of Loving Grace has a project called Amish Rake Fight.

I can’t take credit for the term, but it’s always generated such vivid mental pictures….

-Erik
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superabbit.bandcamp.com

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