[Brian]

Good argument for Fender.  I would love to see them take in NI hardware and software, but not the other companies (Izo, etc) that were grossly over-paid for.  I suspect the seller of P.A. (to NI) is going to get it back for pennies on the dollar 🙂

Edit-  Adding a bit re: In Music.  While I have been burned by them more than once, I think their HeadRush Guitar pedals (at least the Flex Prime I recently bought) is amazing, and unbeatable for $500.  I still would HATE to see them get NI, but not all of their companies are dumpster fires.

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Cool @thesteven- Thanks!  I am especially attracted to the DIY stuff.  My Dad and I built my first guitar amp about 1971 (Heathkit).  Also nearly 50 years as a ham radio guy, so I built a lot of gadgets over that time.  I still have a “Kent” branded solid body that I Frankensteined in High School with custom switches to phase the pickups to make it “quack”.

[Brian]

On LinkedMusicians said

That sounds really cool, Steve! Seriously.

Check out our new tools:

SEARCH: Gear Reviews, FREE Synth Presets, FREE Samples,  Forums & Subreddits , Synth Manuals.
TOOLS: Mixing/Mastering Problem Solver, Ryhme Generator.

I agree!  For $10, got got me 🙂

 

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I finally caved and bought the Tonex pedal last year, and it is really neat.  I think they have been selling a ton of them.  All the magic is still in the software though- even if its ported to a stomp.  Probably true of most new pedals these days, at least if they are cramming a ton of FX in them.  IK also recently released that Vocal AI program, but I am sticking to my “promise” not to buy any IK software until it is part of a Total Studio Max update.

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Hey @bselack –  Not speaking for Mike or Musio, but you might check out the Discord Channel for Musio.  There is a lot of engagement from the devs over there.  I am not really a fan of Discord- a little “cartoony” for my taste, but I try to look at it every week or so for folks like Musio and SoundPaint that hang out there.  Heck of a lot more tolerable than FB.  I have had trouble posting Discord links before, so if that doesn’t work, you can find it at the bottom of the Musio homepage.

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Hello Mike and welcome to the forum!  Thanks for joining us here on LM and especially for working out the third party deal for us “Lifetime” Musio+ owners.  You set up a heck of a buffet table 👍

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… at’s a fantastic deal for the Lifetime Deal buyers. I did not expect that. Considering that you bought the lifetime deal, I am guessing this makes you pretty happy. Is that right, @bluescat?

Yes, I definitely think they did “the right thing” to treat us “early supporters” fairly.  There is discussion about this on the Musio Discord if anyone is interested.  I am disappointed to read your posts in the Members area about Musio having a couple devs poached by a rival.  Musio should have a pretty good “leg up” on their competitors though, having already written the tools to convert Kontakt libraries to Musio.  I have to think some Kontakt devs have been looking at alternatives, at least as a co-development effort, since NI revealed its frailty.

 

 

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Very cool.  Just learning about the “PresetShare” site was worth the visit.  I don’t have the patience or brain capacity to build patches from scratch, and sifting through hundreds of presets is a buzz-kill.  Best to find something “close” and tweakable using a search like this.

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Rather than start a new thread, I am posting here, so you can see the previous comments.  I just got a marketing email promoting ASK lifetime access for $149.50 (half price) with code: 26BirthdayAV50.  No mention in the email of expiration.

I used ASK for a couple years and had no issues, but I found that most of what I wanted was over on Groove3, so I still keep that sub.  ASK does have a lot of other creative content in addition to music but you should definitely look over their content for suitable and timely offerings.

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My upgrade price to Pro 6 from Pro 5 is $49, but I had purchased the Drum Mixer at release.

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Update from Absolute 6 is $100 direct from Stienberg.  Also cross/upgrades available.  Update from V5 or older is $200.  Looks like crossgrades from competing products are $400.  I think there are upgrades for owning components (like Halion 7).

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/absolute/

 

[Brian]

Also- AAS released a FREE update for Multiphonics CV-3 owners to version 3.1 adding four new modules (including FM synthesis).

https://www.applied-acoustics.com/multiphonics-cv-3/#latest-update

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Thanks @Frank!  I saw this deal in my email while I was waiting my turn at the dentist this morning, so you beat me to it 🙂  I will only add that in the past “lucky 13” sales, UVI went to a 50% off level for 3+ titles, so they cut back a bit for this one.

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I will say that at least RA and LoFi are a lot cheaper at AD than other places I looked, so still a good deal.

Reply from AudioDeluxe support:

Hi Brian,

Exclusive Deals are excluded from coupons.

Thanks,

AudioDeluxe Support Team

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Apparently the AudioDeluxe WINTER10 coupon is no longer working for EastWest stuff? When I tried, using either RA or Lo-Fi, it came back with “Coupon not valid with items in cart”.  I sent a support question about it and will report back.

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I wonder if any comparisons can be drawn from the Magix insolvency that I believe was filed two years ago?  I am not interested enough to dig, and I would be reliant on translation as I don’t speak a word of German.  I did find the following recent press release regarding Magix that you can translate via browser.  I think they are small potatoes compared to NI, but they appear to still be selling and updating software products.

 

https://www.indat.info/Meldungen/Pressemitteilungen-Insolvenz-Sanierung/Erfolgreiche-Sanierung-der-Magix-Software-GmbH-d6579054b839094a54bbe5fa85d1eed8

[Brian]

In case you don’t want to watch some guy in a mask:

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Definitely.

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I have seen recommendations in a few forums to keep a list of your registered software products that involve NI.  It’s easy enough, so why not keep a copy.

I only use Windows, so no idea about other platforms.

If you run Native Access and select SUPPORT from the bottom left, then click “Create a Support File”, a ZIP file will be dropped in your public documents folder that contains TXT files showing everything installed on your system by NI and Izotope, including (as far as I can tell) all third party Kontakt libraries.  I also can find about EVERY VST I have listed there, probably because I have used Kontrol.

You can also log in to NI web site and your account to see your “My Products” page.  It’s just a list of titles, but you can grab the whole list (at least on Edge or Brave) by clicking in the window and tapping CTRL-S, which will make a full html file of the window- so no need to scroll and grab by pages.

 

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FWIW I see the linked article in the first post has been edited quite a bit from what I read an hour ago.  A little less “end of the world” feel.  My biggest concern is my NI hardware, as far as ongoing support and updates.

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🤯

[Brian]

I wasn’t gonna look at this because of the subscription, and then I found a (apparently) perpetual license for an “Essential” version in my Fender Studio Pro third party list, so I will at least give it a look.  Tonalics web site says “Essential” is included with Melodyne, so I expect owners will get something about it from Celemony soon, unless it is only a deal with Fender ATM.

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On thesteven said

…

For any did the ‘upgrade’ did you get access to all the additional content & services?

Only had it for a day- Upgraded from 7 that “expired” Dec 21.  IMHO I guess it is the ever present debate any time ANY DAW releases a “major” ($) rather than “point” (free) update.  For ME I guess I think it should have been a free point upgrade, but if they added something that is really a help to your workflow, I can understand feeling it was worth the cost.  They DID add a few free VSTs that you have to get from the “my Fender” page, but I already owned what I considered to be “the good ones”.

There is a Features matrix at the bottom of https://www.fender.com/products/fender-studio-pro that shows by column the difference between Perpetual and Plus, but you DO get some third party VSTs with the Perpetual.  Oddly, there is a row labelled “Pro+ Library of 120,000+ Loops and Samples” that no one gets ?  Maybe my browser is not reading it correctly.

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On fretman said

Best Service now has the upgrade for $86.88 – Best Coin. No freebie like Audio Deluxe (above) but you earn 2.67 BestCoin toward your next purchase.

https://www.bestservice.com/en/fender_studio_pro_upgrade.html?aid=ZBgL2roqVxRSujmR

Studio One, Windows, RME UFX, Yamaha MSP7

 

Purchased from BS with LM code and installing!

I posted earlier my knee-jerk reaction that I thought Fender might have made a misstep with naming, but I now “see the light”.  We are a bunch of music nerds that are quite familiar with Presonus’ DAW.  ‘Fender’ clearly is going to have massively more recognition as a “music making company” than ‘Presonus’ to the general public though.  I also mused that they might be dropping the Presonus branding entirely, because the released info on a couple new MIDI controllers, as well as their audio interfaces that are replacing the Presonus products and will be ‘Fender’ branded.  I learned from Jonny Lipsham’s YT that Fender is (thus far) keeping the Presonus branding for mixers, speakers, mics, headphones, etc.  The Fender brand is going on MIDI and i/o stuff that more directly interfaces with Studio Pro.  If you are interested, the link to Jonny’s video is set to the approximate time that he covers this.  HE IS  A FENDER (Pro Studio team) EMPLOYEE.  So if that bothers you, skip it, or add salt 🙂

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Thanks for doing that @Jorge!  I have numerous plugs that can do MSEG, but are pretty complex. I like Mario’s work and bought it to support his continuing projects.  Now that I am home I can install it and give it some play.  Just getting Fender Studio Pro 8 installed first.  Discovery time 🙂

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On mustakatu said

@bluescat, well, though not ideal, Interaxon’s brainwave-sensing Muse headbands exist. E.g. they work in Ableton Live through a couple of apps and Max for Live devices.

https://choosemuse.com

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8244/muse-port

https://mind-monitor.com

Cool link @mustakatu – Thanks!  -Off-topic alert-   You know, I think I bought a really early version of the Muse headband, or very similar tech, several years ago when I was struggling to learn “mindfulness”.  I just didn’t get much out of it, but that was early days and I think they have come a long ways based on the video.  What (much) later worked for me was using a VR headset+app.  Kind of barraging visual and aural senses along with the mindful practice let me enter the mindful state, which I was then able (over time and practice) to achieve without the device.

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I always look forward to seeing what new MIDI controllers premiere.  Particularly if they are “Off the beaten path” of keys/pads/knobs/sliders.   I remain ever hopeful to see the debut of the magic hat I can don that converts my thoughts to MIDI signals.

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Answering my own question re: licensing- I logged in and my cost to upgrade is $99.  My Studio one 7 upgrade was purchased over a year ago, so it was in “perpetual mode”.  Looks like the same formula as before.  Updates for one year, and perpetual license after that.  Very interesting that they appear to be completely dropping the Presonus branding for hardware too.  It’s all Fender now.

Here is the “What’s New” for v8:  https://www.fender.com/pages/fender-studio-pro-new-features

 

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Well-  I should not be surprised, but it gives me pause.  As a Studio One user since V3 it seems like they are throwing away some market familiarity among current DAW users.  Wonder if there is any change to price and licensing model?

 

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Nothing like Merger and Acquisition activity to keep the games interesting 🙂

[Brian]

Something is wonky with their prices, unless they really ramped them up.  I got an email promo with that $299 price but I already bought the 11 upgrade from 10 for $149 in May. IIRC single step upgrades have gone on sale for around $150, and they drop that price if you bought any new singles between the collection releases.

[Brian]

I don’t really “do” New Year resolutions, but I have a “goal”.  Two of my grandkids received “Yoto” MP3 players. It’s a kid friendly device that uses RFID embedded cards to pull playlists down from the web.  I gave them a pack of user customizable cards on Christmas, of which one is labeled “Grandpa”.  Each card “holds” up to 100 tracks or 5 hours.  I have made 20 tracks so far (eleven songs and 9 poems); covers- not original; and hope to get all 100 done before they enter college (ages 6 and 3).  20% done before New Years, so I think I will get there 😛  I will stick a couple of the songs on the sharing page here on LM shortly.

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Thanks for the tip!  I just got “Mona”.  I usually ignore paid “skins” but if you have Diva, this is worth a closer look, as it does a lot more than just change appearance.

[Brian]

They have released the Windows version of Wingman.  30 day refund available, which I may take advantage of.  I only spent a brief time with it, but I am disappointed that so far, it appears that you have to let it analyze a complete mix.  I thought it would be easier to drop in instrument stems and not depend on the AI to categorize it correctly.  I’ll give it some more trial, but I don’t think this will be helpful for ME.  Unfortunately it looks like Mixed in Key have abandoned their Discord channel, so I don’t know if there is currently a forum where users hang out.  Nor is there any kind of manual or in app “Help” for Wingman.  I suspect they really rushed release for the calendar’s sake.

[Brian]

On pseudopop said

It was $29 back in 2022 at AudioDeluxe, but if we take inflation into account I guess it’s actually cheaper now.

 

Love it 🙂  As Monte Python would sing…

Always look at the bright, side of life!

(Not a comment on F’M BTW- A rare vst that I do not own )

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