Musio Annual Plan $74 US reg. $99

[peter]

https://musio.com/annual-plan

Musio is also offering 3 months on their monthly plan for $.99 per month then the price goes to $9.99 per month.
https://musio.com/pricing

NOTE: I picked up a Musio perpetual license during their 2024 Black Friday sale and it was one of these best sample libbrary deals I’ve ever had. It’s not perfect. It lacks the effects, and preset / snapshot and other capabilities of Kontakt, but considering the cost per quality library ratio, I think when there’s a sale if you can pick this up for $149 or $199, it’s the best deal in orchestral sample libraries today. And I’m not an affiliate, I don’t have any NFRs, or any relationship with the company beyond being a regular paying customer, PLUS, I’ve consulted to some of their competitors, so believe me, that makes it tougher to publicly praise them, as there’s always a good chance it will alienate a developer competitor I’ve worked for who sees me praising a competitor. But I am not an influencer; I do not sell my opinions to the highest bidder and then pretend that compensation and potential future compensation doesn’t influence opinions. I don’t grift. I have affiliate relationships to help with the costs of the site, but I will NEVER shill for any brand. That’s not simply a business decision, those are my values. If I’m recommending something, it’s because I sincerely mean it. I make nothing for recommending Musio. I’m personally friends with one of their competitors (8Dio/SoundPaint), and they’ve been a client of my consulting business. I think there’s enough business for them to co-exist. But I don’t make compensation from recommending either of them here. I don’t have affiliate relationships with either of them.

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[Brian]

Just want to add that Musio recently added mic positions, which is a huge upgrade (literally- Gigs more samples).  Access them in the Musio Instrument settings.  As you activate each mic position, the samples will download.

@Peter; you mentioned when you got Musio last year that the “Piano in Blue” lacked something.  All that it had earlier was close mic and reverb.  Load it up now and activate the Room and Surround mics… and back off the reverb.  Mix and serve 🙂

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[fretman]

But doesn’t Musio lock you in forever? If you stop the subscription and next year you need to re-open an old project that used Musio, aren’t you stuck?

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[peter]

On fretman said

But doesn’t Musio lock you in forever? If you stop the subscription and next year you need to re-open an old project that used Musio, aren’t you stuck?

That is pretty much how all of them operate when it comes to subscriptions. But Brian and I use Muso’s perpetual license versions — and Brian bought Musio’s lifetime deal. I recommend is picking up the perpetual license when it goes on sale next time. It’s been on sale for as low as $149, and it’s an astounding value — and once again, I have no relationship and I’ve consulted to their partners, so you can be certain that my recommendation doesn’t help me with developer’s I’ve advised. But I value the ability to share my honest opinions — which sure, is the same line influencers give. But no one is paying me or giving me products to be an influencer. You can ask my friends, my family, or former colleagues if they think that I’d be able to shill for a company. Nope. No one else is in the sample developer biz is offering anything close to the same value that Musio offers with their perpetual license when they’ve been on sale. I don’t think it’s sustainable for them to keep offering it as cheap as they have, but while they’re doing it, I would strongly recommend snapping it up.

But subscriptions for sample libraries or the subscription model that BandLab uses both leave you in bad shape if you want to go back to a project and edit. Now, to be clear, you can freeze tracks in some DAWs and then you don’t need to have that library anymore. But personally,. I want the ability to make edits if I go back and do a remix, which I’ve done a lot. So, like most of us here, I’m not a fan of the subscription model.

That said for my business and even for this site, I have at least one dozen annual subscriptions to various developers from big stuff like the design tool, the theme developer, image optimization, security, email services — even the reactions (the likes, etc) on the forum and the Groups cost me around $80 a year for an update and service agreement with the developers. So, for a site like this, where hackers are constantly looking for vulnerabilities and old code is dangerous, PLUS, it’s a super complex site, I think the subscriptions are inevitable if you don’t want your site attacked — unless you are a developer yourself.  But for making music, I don’t think that there’s a question for me. Perpetual license all the way.

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[peter]

On Brian said

Just want to add that Musio recently added mic positions, which is a huge upgrade (literally- Gigs more samples).  Access them in the Musio Instrument settings.  As you activate each mic position, the samples will download.

@Peter; you mentioned when you got Musio last year that the “Piano in Blue” lacked something.  All that it had earlier was close mic and reverb.  Load it up now and activate the Room and Surround mics… and back off the reverb.  Mix and serve 🙂

I definitely want to download those additional mic positions — although I need to install an additional hard drive first (literally). As far as
“Piano in Blue,” my disappointment is that the Musio version of the library doesn’t have the “Kind of Blue” effects on it like the Kontakt version. I did contact the Musio folks and the support person that responded suggested throwing on RC-20, which I have and I tried, and unsurprisingly, it doesn’t come anywhere close to the audio demos for the Kontakt version. Of course, Musio doesn’t have the effects or patch/snapshot capabilities that Kontakt has, so maybe it will never get that sound unless I learn how to create an effects chain that can come close, which I’ve attempted to do, but I simply don’t have the skill to do a great job.

This demo is a good example. While the “Piano in Blue” sounds excellent, it doesn’t have that vintage vibe that, of course, require a bunch of analog gear. I’ve tried to get there with a preamp, saturator, compressor, and reverb. I feel I’m not doing bad, but I don’t know how to nail that sound.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0853/5660/9854/files/PIB_Maddison_Rodriguez-Your_Story.mp3

My very talented friend, Greg Schlaepfer playing a beloved jazz standard:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0853/5660/9854/files/PIB_Greg_Schlaepfer-All_The_Things.mp3

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[GoncaloL]

Really great deal Musio Perpetual.

If they want me to jump on board on the next iteration Musio 2 if that will ever come out (and assuming that it will have to be pricier than what they charge for Musio 1 on sale) i would need a consistent road map of a bunch of interesting libraries but even more importantly would be great to see patch/snapshots (with favorites option) and better effects. That would be great

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[peter]

On GoncaloL said

Really great deal Musio Perpetual.

If they want me to jump on board on the next iteration Musio 2 if that will ever come out (and assuming that it will have to be pricier than what they charge for Musio 1 on sale) i would need a consistent road map of a bunch of interesting libraries but even more importantly would be great to see patch/snapshots (with favorites option) and better effects. That would be great

What’s happening with orchestral developers that have been around a long time and have huge catalogs is that they’ve already paid for the huge production costs (okay, I’m mainly referring to Cinesamples and 8Dio). So it’s not like they can go drop a quarter million on making a new orchestral library and then sell that and 1,000 more libraries for $149 US and stay in business. You’re exactly right, @goncalol, Musio certainly won’t be doing another deal that even comes close to a Musio 2. And consider that the stuff in Musio 1 was created over nearly two decades. So yeah, there’s no question that the talk of Musio 2 back when they first launched Musio 1 was absolutely overblown without a strong basis in reality.

So, here’s how I looked at it when I decided to buy it. I saw that there’s a good deal of risk if Musio was going to survive. I knew from developers that they were laying off people and that one of the co-founders had left a couple of years prior and then the other Mike left. Musio 2 was pure pie in the sky hype. I would never have advised a developer that was a smart or even an honest tactic to promise that. It was neither. So, I hesitated to buy these libraries because I knew there was a serious risk that Musio was going to fold and was making a big promise there’s no way that they would deliver on.

What I think is likely to happen is that the new CEO — who I think is much more of a straight shooter than Mike Patti,- but that’s based on his statements and my instincts (mainly, the man shares some things that most CEOs would hide and hasn’t made the overhyped, overpromises Mike Patti was making) — will end up making more modest sample libraries. Not giant orchestral, but more along the lines of soloists, of less costly to sample instruments. I know from other develoeprs and the new CEO’s statemetns that he still employees some very talented people. I think he’s a savvy guy and he’s got his head on straight from what I can tell. So, going forward, my guess is that Musio will relese more libraries, but not giant ones. I don’t think Musio 2 — if it happens in the next year or so — will come anywhere close to what Musio 1 is. I could imagine several, much more modest sample libraries.

And if they do that and those libraries sound as good as the libraries in Musio 1 are affordable, I’m very interested. But no doubt, those libraries will not be as inexpensive as the libraries made as far as 15 or so years ago included in the Musio 1 perpeutal license. They’re going to need to recoup production costs on new libraries and that would take quite a long time at the prices they’re currently selling things at — unless they had an enormous customer base increase.

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[GoncaloL]

Yep i agree that is why i was sugesting that they could try to make up for the lack new libraries with improvements on their tool with just a bunch of libraries thrown in ..that would make an update price justifiable and a much easier task to deliver

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