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[peter]

On fretman said

True, but with MIDI-learn most of the limitations can be worked around. These are extremely useful libraries that sound very, very good.

Based on my experience working with the developers and using these libraries going back decades, I have to disagree with the idea that MIDI can make up for articulations and modeling that isn’t there — that’s simply not the case.

Years ago, I went to Orange Tree Samples after their initial line and proposed doing what became the Evolution line. I owned just about every virtual guitar plugin and sample library on the market, and had known a bunch of the developers and scripters that made and worked on them. I knew that the programming and samples Greg was putting in got attention from A LOT of developers (I knew the Kontakt scripter that did work on the Big Fish Electricity libraries and he told me that he reverse engineered Evolution to make that). Those samples, scripting, and modeling isn’t part of these simplistic libraries (I think the developers that do them are OTS, Ample Sounds and Big Fish). Other developers — including the larger ones  — talk about this stuff; I know because some have talked to me about it. I don’t want to name names, but they usually acknowledge that they can’t achieve that realism with their libraries. No amount of MIDI can. It simply has to be in the including samples, the scripting, and the modeling to be achieved.

With libraries like Tracy’s or Andrea’s, they’re just largely recordings of notes, strums or strumming patterns without the samples, programming, and modeling (or even the same degree of articulations) that makes the more sophisticated libraries sound realistic enough to make it into final production. On a simpler level, they don’t even have the detailed articulations and they do not use modeling like Evolution. That’s a giant difference in realism and that is a big part of why pro composers ended up using Evolution in final productions that made it on TV, film, and even pop songs.

The area that has a way to go is non-looped strumming. I think there’s a lot of ways it can be improved. I don’t think any developer has nailed it.

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