NI launched Maschine 3

[Satya]

https://www.thomann.de/intl/native_instruments_maschine_3.htm
Maschine 3 Now With Stem Separation, New MIDI Tools and New Sound Library
The full version of Native Instruments Maschine 3 is now available for $90.00 / €99.00 / £84.00. The update is available for $62.00 / £58.00 / €69.00. The update without the sound library can be purchased for $26.00 / £24.70 / €29.00. The sounds can be purchased separately here for $44.00 / £41.00 / €49.00.

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[Xandre]

So what’s the fancy new feature that makes it so hard to keep MK1 and MK2 ‘s supported?

[Kirean]

Was thinking about getting Maschine Mikro earlier this year, but seeing how fast they dropped support was kinda eeeeh.

[Lionel]

On Xandre said

So what’s the fancy new feature that makes it so hard to keep MK1 and MK2 ‘s supported?

That’s exactly the question that’s preventing me from ever purchasing their hardware again.  Compared to other developers, their HW has a relatively short lifespan(in terms of software support).  Essentially, NI want you to keep on upgrading to their latest and greatest HW.  Just look at some of their midi keyboards that recently became unsupported.

Nasty habit of NI unfortunately.

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[anxiousmofo]

NI’s gauntlet of questionable decision making is a cause for extreme caution at this point. Their disconnection from their legacy user base and singleminded shilling of samples and decaying hardware trinkets is a curious spectacle. At some point, the profits will dry up from the disposable customers who apparently buy those things in droves at present. Those buyers will inevitably lose interest or get sick of being shafted on the hamster wheel. I’m not sure venture capital cares about that, though.

Tangled roots perplex her ways.

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[peter]

On Lionel said

On Xandre said

So what’s the fancy new feature that makes it so hard to keep MK1 and MK2 ‘s supported?

That’s exactly the question that’s preventing me from ever purchasing their hardware again.  Compared to other developers, their HW has a relatively short lifespan(in terms of software support).  Essentially, NI want you to keep on upgrading to their latest and greatest HW.  Just look at some of their midi keyboards that recently became unsupported.

Nasty habit of NI unfortunately.

I was tempted by NI keyboard controllers, but when I witnessed how they made them obsolete, I felt pretty good about going with my Nekar.

A sidenote, I’ve found that Nektar makes terrible sustain pedals. I’ve had two or three stop working on me over three years (I don’t know, maybe all of those years of playing drums makes me to rough on the pedals, but these ones keep having problems). I’m about to order a new sustain pedal — as I’ve been borrowing my son’s pedal and he’s away at college and will soon be home for the holidays — and have been told Yamaha makes very reliable sustain pedals. I’d love to hear from anyone who has had a very good or very bad experience with a sustain pedal.

Your friend who keeps the beat. I suppose I'm also the chef at this place.

[Xandre]

I have an KK S49 MK2, I haven’t read any news if that integration will still work with Machine 3, they only talk about the KK MK3 range.

[doug]

On Lionel said

On Xandre said

So what’s the fancy new feature that makes it so hard to keep MK1 and MK2 ‘s supported?

That’s exactly the question that’s preventing me from ever purchasing their hardware again.  Compared to other developers, their HW has a relatively short lifespan(in terms of software support).  Essentially, NI want you to keep on upgrading to their latest and greatest HW.  Just look at some of their midi keyboards that recently became unsupported.

Nasty habit of NI unfortunately.

Sounds like Apple. (ducks and covers)

This would be a clever signature if I could think of one.

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[Lionel]

On doug said

On Lionel said

On Xandre said

So what’s the fancy new feature that makes it so hard to keep MK1 and MK2 ‘s supported?

That’s exactly the question that’s preventing me from ever purchasing their hardware again.  Compared to other developers, their HW has a relatively short lifespan(in terms of software support).  Essentially, NI want you to keep on upgrading to their latest and greatest HW.  Just look at some of their midi keyboards that recently became unsupported.

Nasty habit of NI unfortunately.

Sounds like Apple. (ducks and covers)

This would be a clever signature if I could think of one.

Native Instruments – Making the best paper weights and door-stoppers for musicians since 1996 

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[antler]

As far as I’m aware, Maschine 2 doesn’t disappear. Much like e.g. previous versions of Kontakt, they stay in your library if you have them. If you have a mk2 device, you can continue to use Maschine 2. The device doesn’t suddenly become a doorstop; you just can’t use it with Maschine 3.

And of course, if that isn’t true, I’m happy to be corrected.

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[Lionel]

On antler said

As far as I’m aware, Maschine 2 doesn’t disappear. Much like e.g. previous versions of Kontakt, they stay in your library if you have them. If you have a mk2 device, you can continue to use Maschine 2. The device doesn’t suddenly become a doorstop; you just can’t use it with Maschine 3.

And of course, if that isn’t true, I’m happy to be corrected.

You’re correct.  The hardware will continue to work as long as it still works with whatever operating system you’re using. If you’re on MAC, it’ll become obsolete sooner because Apple constantly updates their OS.  On Windows, you’ll last a little bit longer.

Good example of a paper weight/door-stopper from Native Instruments…KORE. NI stopped support and drivers for it. Unless you leave your computer on the current OS state/version forever, you’ll most likely need to update your OS and eventually lose the ability to use that NI hardware again. NI don’t even allow you to download or reinstall the software for it(unless you happen to have saved a copy). Pretty shady.

• This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by Lionel.

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