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Which makes it cheaper to buy the Creative Suite if you have 20+ plugins if you want to get the new Choiiiir. Which is on sale for $169

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So it’s a trial/open beta with all functions for now and then at some point it will be a basic version and you have to buy for the full feature set. From what I am reading. It’s also nice that the trail/beta will end ‘Sometime later in 2026’

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With a yearly new Update, I think maybe  a 25 – 30 % sale during Black Friday sales?

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Here’s the statement from Nick the CEO:

https://blog.native-instruments.com/an-announcement-from-nick-williams/

 

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I wonder if we’ll be seeing the 50% off on Komplete anymore, now that they’re clearly on a yearly schedule now as per the new naming convention.

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UJAM have a bit different system with their  Complete Bundle than most vendors. It’s a rolling system, depending on how much you own already.
I think I am up to date currently, and won’t be buying new stuff until the $79 update price equates to $6 or $7 per added item to the collection. Which would be, with their product release rate be in about 1,5 – 2 years.

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One of the great things here, apart from the people of course, is the insights that Peter gives on the plugin business. And I think that will even be more evident as developers start pitching in/ joining here.

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Congrats!

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It seems to be working still. I’m surprised they are keeping this glitch up such a long time.

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It’s would have been a nice starter kit, if not for Luna crashing all the time.

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Are any of these new freebies, or just a collection of previous freebies?

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Was anyone able to use this code? It keeps giving an error during checkout when applying the code. And it’s a different error than entering an invalid code.

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Do you think this is the highest discount we’ll see this year? Or will they have their summer sale with 40% to 50% off on upgrades?

This one seems to coincide with the 15.2 update

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<p style=”text-align: left;”>Do you think adoption of third party developers to create extensions is mandatory for any of the Kontakt alternatives to take over?</p>

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I won’t be jumping on Resing is part of these deals. Currently there’s  not even a Max grade to Resing

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It does also work on the Luna Pro bundle, which would bring that down to $79.

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Thinking about the mess that is the Diamond Comics bankruptcy process. Is there any money smaller sample library developers prepaid to NI that might be given to debtors as part of the current insolvency? For instance: do they pre-buy a number of serials to be used within Native Access so their libraries can be used with Kontakt Player? Or is their current risk that the Kontakt platform will die / the new owner will significantly increase the license cost to build Kontakt libraries.

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Didn’t Magix have to sell off their Samplitude and Seqoia to Boris FX? Not sure about all of their other brands like Vegas and Soundforge.

Not sure which parts NI would sell off to get back to their ‘core’ business.

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There is a statement from NI, but it’s not really saying anything substantial:

 

https://blog.native-instruments.com/statement-from-nick-williams-ceo-of-native-instruments/

 

I want to personally take a moment to address the recent news about Native Instruments.

Please rest assured that business continues as usual at Native Instruments, iZotope, Plugin Alliance and Brainworx. Our hardware and software products remain on sale and available for download and activation. Our passionate and dedicated teams are here and supporting customers as normal. In product and engineering, we are continuing to develop and launch new products and features. Our NKS Partnerships team continues to process Kontakt Player licences and NKS Partner submissions.

We are working diligently and responsibly to secure a healthy, financially sustainable future for Native Instruments. As you may have seen, Native Instruments GmbH has entered a restructuring process in Germany, as have 3 of our German non-operating holding companies. In legal terms, we have filed applications to open pre-insolvency proceedings for those companies.

We are focused on providing continuity for creators, customers, and partners. We’ll continue to share updates as we have them.

I’m a lifelong musician myself, and have been a passionate fan of Native Instruments for 25 years. Our mission to inspire and enable creators to express themselves through sound continues.

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One thing I sometimes struggle with is wanting to support developers, but also wanting to save a couple of bucks.

I assume buying directly from a software developer would give them the most margin. But I would like to know which resellers are most ‘ethical’, especially towards smaller developers. And maybe some developers don’t even have their own storefront because that is even more expensive for them than hand off a margin to a reseller.

So I’d love to have some more insight/transparency on that, when deciding on buying something.

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Nothing from Izotope yet? Were they integrated into NI in a different way than Plugin Alliance, so that they might be impacted?

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On MagicRuss said

The other one nobody has mentioned that I want to stay as far away from NI is Music Tribe, for the obvious reason that it is run by Uli Behringer.

Also surprised nobody put Gibson on the no no list either.

I also am against UAD because I don’t want to use iLok.

Well the difference between  Music Tribe buying NI or Gibson, is that Music Tribe would sell new hardware for half the price, whilst Gibson would sell it for five times the current price. The quality would be about the same I guess .. 😂

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On lamia6 said

Image Line would be another candidate, maybe? Their CEO is the former CEO of NI (Constantin Koehncke).

CINZ NET Radio    |    Radio Registry

Wouldn’t they go into competition with themselves if they bought NI, or even just Kontakt + NKS? They already own UVI.

Maybe they will split off their DJ Branch and keep Kontakt / Machine. Not sure who would be candidates for that part though.

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I had an unregistered Fender Mustang Plug lying around for this reason: now I can try out Studio sorry Fender Studio Pro for half a year

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So as long as I have one other DAW that I keep updated, I can crossgrade each year and have the cheapest price for 12 months of Studio One updates?

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For my understanding: there is no difference between buying Studio One 7 outright and extending the licence to get 12 more  months of updates. Right?

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Is the original designer involved?

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Did they add a tier to their upgrade paths? There’s one for $79 for owners of 40+ plugins. I don’t remember seeing that a year ago.

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Not bought software from them, but I see quite a lot gear reviews from their inhouse Guitar brands lately. So they seem to be legit.

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I am on the fence: Do I jump on it now, or wait until Best Service has their inevitable coupon codes for Christmas to bring it down a bit more

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Cue for Magma StressboXXX with extra knobs to tweak, for only $199 to be released in parallel with the free version in 3.2.1….

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Scaler 3.2 has now been released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NIKkzb1O0U

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I am surprised that the Omnivoice Beta is part of all versions of Cubase 15.

On the other hand they might have some telemetry set up in it to capture user usage.

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<p style=”text-align: left;”>Haven’t they been doing the extra freebie rotation in November for a couple of years already?</p>

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Probably the same as the latest bug fix release from Cubase the other week: fixing some bugs a couple of weeks before the next main release.
Which will be paid for everyone that got SO 7 with it’s initial release.

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